July 12th, 2015 SciencePenguin24
A lot of female combative sports practitioners opt to go without groin protection due to (1) lack of good product availability (i.e., most female groin protection don’t fit the female body well), (2) sense of security (i.e., don’t have organ hanging between our legs), and (3) maybe they just haven’t gotten seriously attacked around that area…yet. In my quest to find a good female groin cup for myself, I tried four different groin protection, two made for females, two made for males. Two that fit inside a compression short, and two that are self-sustainable (same brand).
I think the Lo-Bloo Thai Cup 2.0 is my go-to if I’m sparring, and I am keeping the Lo-Bloo Aero Slim Female for Krav Maga's everyday training. Both of them (1) provide good protection, (2) stay in place, and (3) don’t impede my movements. I’ll give an overview for each of these groin protectors, and the reason I opt for the Lo-Bloo despite the slightly higher price tag (although if you include the cost of a compression short for the other two, the prices are actually similar).
To quote the US patent of army-type groin protection (1929), good groin protection should: “First, to provide means for protection, which do not impede the freedom of movement of the pugilist,–second, to preserve the wearers comfort and to avoid bruises or cuts,-third, to offer full protection for the groin, fourth, to divert the force of foul blows over a large area of the abdomen and the legs.” So that is for the apron-type armor protection for the groin. On a similar vein, sports-type groin protection should do the following:
What do you get if you do a google search?
Quick Google search of “groin cup female” or “groin protection women” will bring up two types of results: the traditional boxing/martial-art type protector or the Shock Doctor pelvic protector (originally designed for hockey, but used by many for other sports). To avoid bulkiness, I crossed out the traditional boxing-type groin protector. So what I have left was either the pelvic protector (that fits in compression shorts) or the male groin cup.
The Shock Doctor Pelvic Protector is basically a piece of hard foam (dual-density foam) with hard plastic in the front. Although it added a layer of foam between the groin and the attack, due to its shape, it is not the best at diverting the force towards a less sensitive area. In other words, I still feel the direct impact on my groin.
Also, it is quite wide and made the movement quite awkward for me. (NOTE: I’m 5’5, medium built female. So this might fit really well for someone else, but just not me).
For me, it does the job way better than the “for-female” pelvic protector. Its construction with the concave shape (intended for the male-specific organs) means that there was little to no direct impact on my groin, instead, the force is diverted to my inner thigh. The edge of the RDX cup is lined with gel (in blue), which enhances its ability to absorb even more force.
I bought the RDX groin cup with the compression shorts for $25 on the RDX website, which makes it also cheaper than the Shock Doctor combo. *The great thing about this type of athletic groin cup is that there are so many brands producing them. If this is slightly too big, too wide, too narrow, another one is bound to fit better
This is basically a high-tech and more comfortable version of a Thai steel-cup. The Thai steel cup is the most protective groin protection you could find for combative sports. It is made of steel, and it is tied in place so it won’t shift. The Lo-Bloo Thai Cup 2.0 was designed for people who don’t like having a string along their butt-crack (Thai steel cup is tied that way, which means every time you put it on, it has to be tied again; the Lo-Bloo can just come on-and-off because of its elastic bands).
The Lo-Bloo Thai Cup doesn’t need compression shorts and is secured by their patented system to hold the cup (NOTE: the Patent No. on Amazon is incorrect, 1050598-0 is the application number, but as of May 15, 2015, US 9032559 B2 is the Patent No.) The system is an elastic waistband and an elastic cord used as leg straps. By using the leg straps to hold the cup around the thigh, Lo-Bloo avoided the string that goes along the butt-crack in a traditional Thai steel cup. Watch this video to see how it is assembled. The edge of the cup is lined with rubber that absorbs forces diverted to the hip/thigh. The cup itself is made out of polymer and tested to withstand 4 tons of pressure (good enough for me). “The leg straps are woven out of textured polyester/lycra to prevent allergic reactions and rashes”-description on Amazon. That is a good product design. The Lo-Bloo comes with a drawstring cord lock so the length of the elastic cords can be adjusted around the legs. Once a good length is reached, the knot can be tied on top of the cord lock to ‘save the setting’.
It is pricey at $50 (I got it with a coupon code for $7 off), but I figure if it will shift less than the RDX gel groin cup I was using, I’ll give it a try. It is now my go-to groin protection for sparring because it stays the place the whole time. The last thing I want to worry about during sparring is bringing my hand down to adjusting a groin cup… Tip: Lo-Bloo’s distributes in the USA on Amazon for $44.99 USD.
Here are some other reviews on the Lo-Bloo Thai Cup 2.0: The Fight Nerd, My Muay Thai, Muay Thai Authority.
Lo-Bloo Aero Slim Female Groin Protection (front and back).
I was going to just settle with the Lo-Bloo Thai Cup, but as of July 2015, Lo-Bloo introduced a new line of groin protection, the Aero. It has a model specifically designed for females, and I just got to try it. I was told the release date and clicked ‘buy’ the day after. It arrived in 6-days (pretty fast given it was mailed from Sweden).
After some experimenting, I realize it was due to the rigidity of the Aero Slim (or the lack thereof from the Shock Doctor). I could easily squish the Shock Doctor, which means more force is transferred to me right from the center of the protector (instead of dissipating to the side, which will transfer the force to my hip/thigh). Whereas the rigidity of the Aero Slim keeps it from collapsing (see pic below). The tabletop seems to exaggerate the effect because the foam at the end of the shock doctor is the main part that is bending. I did a similar test with the protectors between my hand, where I’m supporting all sides of the protector. The Aero Slim keeps its general shape, whereas the Shock Doctor almost completely flattens out.
Note that the Aero Slim does not come with a cord lock for the leg strap like the Thai Cup 2.0. However, a simple knot can lock in the preferred length of the leg strap. Also, a cord lock can easily be added if preferred.
Lo-bloo female groin protection’s leg strap can be secured by tying a knot after the preferred length is dialed in.
I’m glad I gave the Lo-Bloo Aero Slim Female a try. It is the most comfortable of all the groin protectors I tried. It has less protection than the Lo-Bloo Thai Cup, but its design provides even better accommodation for movement of the female body built. The Aero Slim is going for $42.99 on Amazon.
*UPDATE* After a few weeks of use, I realize that having the cord lock on the Lo-Bloo works way better. If you just depend on the leg strap (made of shock cord) to tie a knot, it is more likely to get loose and also stretches out the cord (see pic below).
Leg strap cord became stretched out if fasten without a cord lock. (in this pic, I already added a cord lock and it didn’t stretch out more after that)
So the simple solution is to get a $0.50 cord lock and add it to the Lo-Bloo Slim. I hope in the future if Lo-Bloo updates this product, a cord lock will come with it. But a < $1 modification is not that hard for me. They might have taken away the cord lock (which was in the original Thai Cup 2.0) to decrease the bulge, but it honestly doesn’t add much more than tying a double knot
in place.
Adding a cord lock and then tying a knot over it just like how the Thai Cup 2.0 is secured. It doesn’t really add more bulge and is definitely much more secure.
I decided to keep the Lo-Bloo Aero Slim Female for general use during Krav Maga and maybe rolling in BJJ (heard that the shin on the groin could be pretty bad). And use the Thai Cup 2.0 mainly for sparring. It seems overkill, but hell, I can’t return groin protectors (no one really wants to buy a used one…). And their utility is maximized with this arrangement. Maximum protection during sparring, and enough protection + best comfort during everyday practice. One last thing I want to stress is the ease of use for both of the Lo-Bloo groin protectors. After the initial adjustment. it is literally like slipping on another pair of shorts (hold both the waistband and the elastic cords around the legs together, put two legs through, pull up :D). I don’t have to fiddle around with stuffing the cup into a velcro-ed sleeve in the compression shorts. Not a big deal, but efficiency is always great. =========================
For males, the external organs around their groin area give the obvious reasons why groin strikes would cause a crazy amount of pain. Females also have their genitalia in the groin area, which has a very high density of nerve endings. This means a hit to the female groin will also cause a lot of pain (watch these videos). A big knee or groin kick is definitely enough to take you out of the fight for the round if not longer. Bigger injuries such as a bone bruise to the pubic bone or a fracture may occur as well (might happen if you seriously got stomped on or kneed while clinched down). I’ve been hit a few times throughout my 8 years in martial arts, but I didn’t dive into looking for some good groin protection (that won’t interfere with my practice) until one incident…where I got toe-kicked (by someone with shoes on) straight into my groin. I was out for the rest of the night in terms of practicing, and went straight to google that night looking for a decent groin protector…
For Krav Maga, I highly recommend any female students past the first level to get a groin protector of some sort. There are a lot of groin attacks in Krav Maga. If we want to be a good partner, having groin protection lets our partner practice their technique without worrying too much about pulling their kicks as much. It gives us the peace of mind that it won’t hurt as much (even in non-full force scenarios), and gives our practice partners the peace of mind that they are not hurting us.
I’m glad that Lo-Bloo came out with a female groin protector that is well-designed. As mentioned by other female athletes in combative sports, there are really too few choices. When I first looked for groin protection, Aero Slim wasn’t released yet, so I went through the several groin protectors I listed in this post. Hopefully, with more females getting into combative sports, more companies will see that the market is flooded with male groin cups but has literally no choices for females (just because the Aero Slim worked well for me, doesn’t mean it will work well for everyone else with different body types). Different brands competing will improve designs, and provide options for individuals with different body builds and preferences.
Disclaimer: I paid for all of these groin protectors myself.